issues, call 866-our-vote, so they know what kind of id they might need. if they see this kind of behavior. but we do know that people are organizing to make it harder to vote and it's a fact that african-americans, students, young people, elderly americans, veterans, all of these laws will make it harder for them to vote. we should be expanding access and participation. and we will have voters' backs before and on election day. >> steven n that same "new york times" article i quoted a little bit earlier, the president of true the vote was saying that they had reports of buses carrying hundreds of people to voting places, for example, during wisconsin's recall election and that they were being dropped off. they had questions about where these buses of people came through. at the top of the article, the writer says, quote, it might as well be harry potter's i invisible night bus because no one can prove that it exists, end quote. what's your thought here? >> i have to agree that just because one says something doesn't make it so. look, no one wants voter fraud.